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Alliance on Cho’gall will do anything to win. Horde does control Wintergrasp about 80% of the time, so, I can see some of their frustration. In the last few days I’ve played roughly 30 rounds of the Battle for Lake Wintergrasp. In those 30 games, Horde has been on defense for 20 of those and on offense probably 10 of those games. On defense, I’ve seen vehicles inside our keep without any walls being down. The first time I saw it, I thought it was one of those random issues where a vehicle just happened to be on the edge of something and it jumped across.

However, after seeing it in probably 12 of the 20 times we’ve been on defense, I think it is more than an accidental thing.

The Alliance has figured out how to glitch through walls using almost all of the vehicles. Even the Siege Engine can come through the doorways in the walls on the inner courtyard, but, requires a bit more finesse. Normally, you’ll see a string of Demolishers coming through the doors in the walls, and they will just keep pumping them out and getting to the wall doorway outside the relic.

On the outer tower, they get the vehicle lined up on the northern side of the southeast tower, and at a very small angle, continue riding forward into that corner. After a few seconds, the vehicle pops up on the tower platform and is able to roll through the courtyard without the wall even being touched. Its not done very often as it takes a number of people with enough kills and the skill to walk up the tower wall and come through.

It also appears that as soon as the battle starts, when the Alliance has 20 stacks of Tenacity, the NPCs near the bridges can be killed granting a PvP kill and giving them full rank to purchase any vehicle. A raid group then makes Siege Engines and they can easily glitch the counters there. Player A creates a vehicle, exits the vehicle, someone else grabs it. Player A then creates another vehicle. I believe they can get double the count and then there hit some limit. The most I’ve seen is 16/8 or 32/16. Its not frequent that I have seen them do this. The one time I saw this, they had 16 Siege Engines within the first 30 seconds of the game and won Wintergrasp before half the Horde even had a chance to zone in.

If they get an outer wall down, they can build Demolishers, turn them sideways and run through the doorways in the inner walls. At that point, the Demolishers are on the interior courtyard battering down the wall in front of the relic. Normally we’ll see 6-8 of them rolling in at the same time and it only takes 2-3 pounding on the wall to break it down.

Once the wall is halfway down, there appears to be a way to get feared or polymorphed through. Its also likely that there is a crack as there was a shaman inside that almost got the orb after we destroyed a few Demolishers. It was dumb luck that we sent a few people in to check the orb.

When Alliance holds Wintergrasp, they have a portal in Dalaran that they can use. Horde’s portal is only open during a battle. I have seen the portal up once when we controlled Wintergrasp and a battle wasn’t going on. I have mind visioned players into the Alliance portion of Dalaran and have seen their portal up each time. I am told by one person that the Alliance portal isn’t always there, but, is there fairly consistently when they hold Wintergrasp.

Horde outnumbers Alliance on our realm roughly 2:1, so, we are always fighting Alliance players with multiple stacks of tenacity — often times we’ll see warlocks with 70k health and dots that tick at 6k. No problem. As a healer, I just have to stay on my toes a little more. I am one of the few that really doesn’t mind Tenacity. If I were Alliance on Cho’gall, I would think it exceedingly difficult to fight 1v3 as it often is during Wintergrasp. Tenacity as it stands seems quite fair and well proportioned. However, the tenacity buff doesn’t disappear at the end of the battle. Often times they will camp the graveyard and kill off the few people that died near a workshop and aren’t being rezzed inside the fortress.

Horde has attempted to glitch a game or two, so, we’re not really immune, but, with our numbers, it is less likely that we need to cheat to win. Even without the cheating, Alliance does have a chance to win and has. Horde is sometimes disorganized and if the Alliance play smart, they can win.

There are plenty of Wintergrasp tactics that the Alliance could use — they just appear to resort to exploits more frequently than fair battles.

In this particular one, Bobom was one of the ones that was exploiting. One day maybe Blizzard will fix it, but, it appears that things are working as intended based on the GM responses and responses in the forums.